'Milk Williams': It Was a Good Choice
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talk about being whores and panderers to the now loud and outraged public opinion. it was those son of a bitches that got the us into that quagmire.i got a better idea. vote every single one of them out. on both sides. fat pork bellied politicians. elect a bunch of fresh 20 somethings. no more 50 year old farts and codgers.
It just amazes me to see soo many people not want to win a war their country is fighting. Instead of going “okay, let’s win this thing, lets do it the best way we can, and then sort out the politics/mistakes later”, we have a “oh man its taking more than 2 months and some people died, WE GOTTA GET OUT OF HERE” mentallity. It’s the “not here in 30 minutes or free” thinking, I cannot even bear to think what it will be like when I am 50. It is very funny, before Bush was president, people from BOTH parties said Saddam had WMD’s, had used WMD’s, and needed to be gotten rid of, even Clinton started the policy of regime change in Iraq, and the ENTIRE WORLD said the same thing we did about WMD’s (and no, they were not using our data). All you people with 20 minute memories are right, let’s leave, it’s too much work, why win, playing Wii is much more fulfilling. The Australians have it right, lets win, and sort out the gunk later. We are in too deep to pull out without dire consequences. If we pull out too soon, the slaughter that will ensue will be on YOUR heads. Keep the temper tantrums flying! Man it’s cold, GLOBAL WARMING!
I’ve protested this war from the beginning, in the streets, but there’s this nagging part of me that keeps asking: If there was a genocidal civil war going on, wouldn’t we intervene to save lives? Take, for instance, Rwanda. Our inaction there has been the cause of plenty of retrospective guilt and hand-wringing. So…say we leave Iraq now and an all-out civil war breaks out. Sunnis murdering every Shiite they can get their hands on, and vice versa. Wouldn’t that put us in the awkward position of saying: We’re just going to let them tear each other to pieces and hope it all works out. Wouldn’t that be the same as not acting on Rwanda? or Darfur? or Somalia? or Bosnia?Then again, there are lots of civil wars that we don’t stick our noses into, Cambodia, Sri Lanka…
Because the notion of Israel being a “white” country is a myth propagated by two kinds of people:1) Anti-Semites. Well duh.2) Innocent folks who have never been to Israel, but have met European or North American Jews. Those, mostly Ashkenazi, groups tend to look/be (depends on your definition of “being” a race) white. So these people assume all Jews are white.
I think Bush has lost the heartland of this country. From Jan. 31, 2007, we learned Georgie doesn’t do it for Peoria anymore.”In Peoria this week, many patrons found their pancakes more interesting…A woman, eyeing Bush and his entourage, sighed heavily and went back to her paper. She was reading the obituaries. ‘Sorry to interrupt your breakfast,’ a White House aide told her. ‘No problem,’ she huffed, in a not-so-friendly way. ‘Life goes on, I guess.’”http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16908975/site/newsweek/
This whole thing is framed improperly. It’s not about left vs right or even about preventing a U.S. invasion force from coming into more harm … it’s about one thing only: civilians. Bush entered Iraq illegally and based on lies, and then did about 10 things to screw it up. Just the number of people who are under 5 and who are dead or don’t have any parents or arms would alone be many multiples of 9/11’s carnage.Whatever secures the innocents is the right path. Once that’s done, let’s humiliate or try Bush.
It’s a good point. Keep in mind that everybody knows everything that happens regarding people in Palestine acting against the Israelis. It’s in the news, nothing is left out. Rocks, mortars, suicide bomber, more rocks.But, this sort of stuff is repeatedly left out. It’s good that this is coming out… it’s actually news.Also, Israel is quite a heavy handed bully regarding the Palestinians. I think the people who use Reddit recognize that.I’m pretty sure that most redditors don’t condone suicide bombings and mortar attacks. But the larger picture is the great inequality between the two groups. There’s what people here are focusing on.
there is virtually zero discussion of Israeli atrocities against Palestinians, and non-stop coverage of Palestinian atrocities against Israel. If one only knew the situation from US television, you would assume an open-and-shut case for Israel. It’s virtually the same with the USA vs. anybody. God Hates America, America is Doomed
Shovrim Shtika.org (breaking the silence)